Very Light Magazine is a magazine of The Antique & Historical Arms Collectors Guild of Victoria, Inc                                                                               No 76 June 2015

The Annual General Meeting of the Guild will be held at 7.30 PM on Monday the 27th of July 2015 at the Eley Park Community Centre, Eley Rd., Blackburn South, Victoria.

                                     (Supper will be served after the meeting)

Any notice of motions and nominations for committee positions must be in the hands of the Secretary seven days prior to the date of the Annual General Meeting. All Committee positions will be declared vacant and nominations are called for the position (s) of President, Vice President, Secretary, Assistant Secretary, Treasurer, Editor of Caps & Flints, Media Officer and five other officers.

Ordinary Business (as required by Rule 9 (4) of the Guilds Rules):

  • To confirm the minutes of the last preceding annual general meeting and of any general meeting held since that meeting;


  • To receive from the Committee reports upon the transactions of the Guild during the last preceding financial year;
  • To elect officers of the Guild; and


  • To receive and consider the statement submitted by the Guild in accordance with section 30 (3) of the Act;
  • To appoint an Auditor.


The annual General Meeting may also transact special business of which notice is given in accordance with the Guild’s Rules.

Please do attend the AGM (and enjoy the supper). We need a quorum of 20 members which means we need you to come along!

After the AGM we will announce the results of the Major Noel Hall Award. This has been very successful and has resulted in really excellent displays. Our grateful thanks to all those who participated. We have all enjoyed these evenings.


Monday Night Themes for 2015

29 JuneBayonets (This is Major Noel Hall Award night).

27 July - Annual General Meeting. A supper will be served.

31 AugustBuy and sell night, books, parts, bits and pieces (firearms excepted). Members who are licensed dealers and have the necessary Dealer’s Display Permit for the venue are allowed to sell firearms.

28 SeptemberMilitaria (This is Major Noel Hall Award night).

26 OctoberGeneral unthemed display night with buy and sell.

30 NovemberCombined Guild/Vintagers night. (Theme to be advised)

Vale Neville Leaf

It is with sadness that we advise our members of the death of Neville Leaf. Neville joined the Guild in 1964 and had been a staunch member for all that time. He had a large and remarkably diverse collection – a great many items from which he would regularly display at the Guild’s Monday meetings. In 2001 his display of punt guns earned him the Henry Scott/Maurie Albert Award and on several occasions he took first place in the Noel Hall Award. The Guild offers its condolences to his family.

Display Security

A gentle reminder to members who present displays that all registerable pistols and longarms held on the various licences are required to be secured while on display even in a locked display case.

A plastic cable tie or trigger lock which locks the action is sufficient if they are displayed in a locked case, while if the arms are displayed on the table a cable tie or trigger lock and security cable holding them to the table are required. The Guild has a supply of the security cables and their locks which are available on request. Plastic cable ties can be purchased cheaply at most hardware stores.


Research Information Needed

Adrian Roads is researching a rare type of percussion musket used by the British in the late 1830s to late 1840s, officially known as the "Musket, Rank and File, for Foot Guards" and usually called the "Pattern 1838 Musket". They are distinguished by being fitted with a back action percussion lock. If anyone has an example of one of these would you please contact Adrian to receive a questionnaire?

You can contact Adrian Roads on 0417 772 535 or by email  adrian@stonehenge.com.au


Guild Table at the Melbourne Gun Show

Thanks to the efforts of Peter Ruse and Vincent and Kevin McLauchlan the Guild had a table at the March show.

Our Monday Night Meetings and Displays

Over past years the committee has offered as wide a variety of display topics as it can. The committee does this so that all the different collecting interests of our members can be accommodated and that nobody will feel left out. But it is inevitable that, given the wide variety of interests of our members, each year someone’s special topic will be left out however over the period of a few years we attempt to cover all the popular areas in rotation.

In the past year we have had some exemplary display nights ranging from edged weapons in September through to last May’s Australian police arms and accoutrements. In addition we had an excellent talk by Jeff Pannan in January on WW1 machine guns with examples provided by Jeff for our inspection and instruction. The March night had as its theme flintlocks and those who attended saw some delightful examples of these truly historic antiques. While the following month the April night’s theme of revolvers and multi-shot firearms brought forth another burst of interesting displays. People who stay at home on these nights are really missing their chances to see items that are of immense interest to anyone involved in arms collecting.

The Monday night meetings are our raison d’être as a club. In simple terms the Guild is a group of people who have a common interest in collecting antique and historic weapons. As individuals we need the opportunity to discuss these with others and also to swap ideas and information and this is the reason the Monday meetings exist. Because of that the Committee, through the medium of Very Light, keeps reminding members that all displays are welcome, even if they aren’t in accordance with the nominated topic for a particular night because we gather to see and discuss items that are a part of our common interest.

The reality is that the Committee’s ability to make our Monday night meetings a success ends with nominating a topic for display – it can’t force members to display. And it is particularly futile for members to come a meeting and then complain that there is nothing to see because if those who complain took the opportunity to put on displays then we would see those objections evaporate pretty quickly. To further encourage members to display the Guild even pays for a group display permit for our meetings and asks people to be a part of that – you get a display permit without having to pay (it’s free), but it is disappointing to see so few take advantage of that offer.

Before the sweeping changes to the Firearms Act in 2003 members could bring along firearms for sale, now as we are sadly aware that option is no longer available. But there is still a persistent opinion held by some members that the committee banned sale of collectable arms at our Monday meetings. Nothing is further from the truth because while the committee has no choice but to enforce what the Firearms Act requires us to do in regard to members offering items for sale we do not preclude any licensed dealers who are Guild members from attending our Monday meetings and offering items for sale providing they have the appropriate permit for the venue.


Relocation of Registry

From 8 June 2015, Licensing & Regulation Division will be relocating their services to Ground Level, Tower 1, 637 Flinders Street Docklands 3008 (entry via Flinders Street).

In order to provide a more personalized approach, attendance at the counter will be by appointment only. There will no longer be a drop in service and customers will need to forward all applications/renewals/correspondence to:

GPO Box 2807
Melbourne VIC 3001

Appointments are available on the following days between the times below:

Monday:       11:00am to 3:00pm
Wednesday:  11:00am to 3:00pm
Friday:          11:00am to 3:00pm

Appointments may be made by contacting the customer service line on 1300 651 645.

Appointments should only be made by customers requiring:
1. An Interview in relation to a private security application applying under mutual recognition;
2. Advice about a security or firearms licence that has been suspended /refused or cancelled; or
3. To discuss more complex applications for firearms, individual security, business and corporate licences.

For access to general information please visit their websites:

Firearm related information - www.police.vic.gov.au/firearms
Private Security related information - www.police.vic.gov.au/privatesecurity
Weapons related information - www.police.vic.gov.au/weapons

Customers concerned about sending sensitive or confidential documentation in the mail may consider utilizing the Australia Post registered mail or Express Post options, although applications sent via standard post are assessed in the same way as those sent by alternate means.

For specific queries that are not addressed on their website, please email licensingregulation@police.vic.gov.au, or alternatively telephone Licensing & Regulation Division on 1300 651 645 between the hours of 8:30am and 4:30pm Monday to Friday.

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