No.52 - November 2010

November 29th Annual Combined Guild/Vintagers Display

Combined Vintagers/Guild Night – This is our annual combined night with the Vintagers. This year the theme is Classic English, Scottish and Irish Sporting guns and rifles and accessories. As with previous Combined Vintagers Display Nights a supper will provided. These are very popular nights with lots of good displays so come along and, if you can, do put on a display from your collection. (Supper provided).

Display Conditions and Permits

We encourage those members who are individually named in the Guild’s Current Display Permit (24th July 2009 to 17th July 2014) (or who hold their own applicable display permit) to take the opportunity to make use of it. It covers all the firearms held on the Collectors Licence(s) of the member listed. We set out the Guild’s Display Permit conditions below.

Members who have items registered to an Antique Handgun Collectors Licence do not need a permit to display these, so to increase the variety at our Monday nights why not bring some of them along.

Collectors Display Permits do not apply to items held under A & B licences. However, such items must not be possessed, carried or used other than in accordance with any licence conditions and the Firearms Act.

Display Permits are not required for displays of Exempt Firearms, such as pre 1900 manufactured single barrelled muzzle-loading pistols, or pre 1900 manufactured longarms (which are either muzzle-loading or take ammunition which is no longer commercially available).

Of course, Guild Displays are not limited to firearms. There is always a lot of interest in displays of militaria, edged weapons, items relating to wars or battles involving Australians and other historical matters of interest to members.

The following are the conditions of the Guild's current club display permit:
(permit only applies to those listed in it, all of whom have been notified individually by the Guild)

1. This permit remains valid for the period specified whilst the Club remains an Approved Firearms Collectors Club approved by the Chief Commissioner under section 123H of the Firearms Act 1996.

2. Each firearms collectors licence holder listed in this permit must be the holder of a current firearms collectors licence on any date on which such licence holder displays his or her firearms and/or ammunition pursuant to this permit.

3. The club must produce this permit on demand by member of the Police Force at the relevant permit site during the display.

4. The firearms collectors licence holders listed in this permit must ensure that:

  • all firearms and/or ammunition is under the immediate supervision and control of the collector at all times whilst the display is open to the public; and
  • all firearms and/or ammunition is secured in a manner which would prevent removal by any person other than the collector.

  • 5. The Club must take reasonable steps during the relevant display to ensure that the firearm collectors licence holders listed in this permit comply with condition 4 above.

    The Major Noel Hall Award

    To honor the memory of Major Noel Hall the Committee has instituted the Major Noel Hall Award for displays presented at the Monday night meetings. The award will be a prize of $500.00

    Judging and Award Procedure

    Currently the themes for displays are notified in advance in Very Light. This will enable all members thinking of putting on a display ample preparation time.

    The system is quite simple and will consist of two parts.

    1). Displays are judged on the night & an ongoing accumulative record is kept of results.

    2). At the AGM the Guild member with the highest number of points accumulated over the previous 12 months is presented with the award. In the event of a tie the prize will be divided amongst the winners.

    Points System

    Judging will be done on each night by a person or persons appointed by the President, or in his absence by a Committee Member, with the caveat that a judge cannot also be someone who has presented a display on that night. Every display is awarded a number of points on the following basis-

    5 points for a display that falls within the theme for that night.

    3 points for providing a display that does not fit the theme.

    2 points for providing the best display of the evening.

    At present we have approximately seven to nine display nights per annum and this should allow a fair range of competition from all members who are interested in taking part. The announcement of the winner will be made at the Annual General Meeting where the cheque will be presented. The Guild will maintain a record of points won and at each meeting an updated list will be displayed so participants can check their progress. The judges’ decision will be final and no discussion will be entered into.

    Themes for 2011

    The following are the themes and dates for the Monday night meetings in 2011.

    January 10 – Talk by Dr. C. H. Roads see the last page of this issue for details. A supper will be provided. Please note that because we have moved the January meeting to the 10th of January there will be no meeting on the last Monday as is our normal custom.

    February 28 – Firearms curiosa, unusual and unique arms.

    March 28 – Cavalry and navy arms.

    April 25 – Accoutrements and holsters.

    May 30 – Swords and edged weapons (a supper will be provided)

    June 27 – Airguns and pistols, poachers’ guns and cane guns.

    July 25 – Annual General Meeting and presentation of the Major Noel Hall Award.

    Please note that even though we have set themes for these nights we encourage members to who have something of interest that may not be related to the particular them to bring it along. Likewise we also encourage members to bring along items for sale as this adds to the variety.

    Request for Information – Early Japanese Breech Loading Rifles

    One of our members, Alan Harris has been contacted by Keith Doyon of www.antiquemilitaryrifles.com who would like to hear from anyone who has access to, or information on early pre- Murata Japanese breech loading rifles. If anyone has any information to share contact Keith on his website.

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